Reread pp. 28-30:
Can you see connections between this story and "The Judgement"? What are they? Kafka had a difficult relationship w/ his father who was an overbearing man. What relevance would that have on the composing of this story? Do these stories tell us anything more general about father-son relationships?
I can definitely see a connection between "The Judgement" and "The Metamorphosis" when it comes to the father-son relationship that Kafka was trying to portray. In "The Judgement", Georg's father was very hard on him when it came to expressing himself and even when it had to do with his personal life. He didn't feel that Georg had anything going for him which made it difficult for Georg even so that it lead him down the road of suicide. He had no confidence that Georg could take over the business and that's one of the things that drove Georg towards the edge. We can see that Kafka felt so impacted by the doings of his own father that he painted Georg's father in that same absurb way. In "The Metamorphosis", Gregor also had to deal with the overbearing qualities of his father as well. We saw that although, Gregor was in a completely different state; not even a human anymore his mother and sister continued to care for him, giving him food and making his surroundings more comfortable. However, to his father all he felt like was a burden to him. His father didn't want to believe that Gregor was there anymore although he knew he was just in a different form. He chased Gregor around and basically treated him like a filthy bug, just off appearance. He had no pity for him as he threw an apple towards him basically not even sparing his life. We can see how pitiless his father was through his actions. That's the type of "father figure" Kafka was trying to depict.
ReplyDeleteThe connections that I see in "The Judgement" and "The Metamorphosis" are that both Georg and Gregor both have a strange relationship with their fathers. In the judgement, Georg's father is an old man who is becoming more dependent on his son. When Georg's father found out about his son's friend in Russia, he went crazy and sentenced his son to death by drowning. In the metamorphosis, Gregor and his father were never that close, and after Gregor becomes a bug, his father kills him with a piece of apple. In both these stories, the protagonists fathers both want their sons to die even though it is not intentional in the metamorphosis. Gregor and Georg's relationships with their fathers eventually leads them to their deaths. These two stories both show how difficult it is for fathers and sons to get along with each other because they both have different ideas about what they want in their lives.
ReplyDeleteI do actually see the connections between this story and "The Judgement". Its obvious the father-son relationships in these stories aren't so strong and nice. I feel as if with these stories Kafka was illustrating to us the difficulties of family relationships. He was giving us a taste on how his relationship was with his father. He shows that not all father-son relationships are perfect.
ReplyDeleteIn "The Judgement" Gerog and his father yell and fight about Gerog's friend that he has had contact with. Gerog's dad told him that he already told his "friend" everything and there was pretty much no point in contacting him. During this argument you see the tension. Gerog's dad sends his son to kill himself, which he does. In "The Metamorphosis" the relationship between Gregor and his father isn't so pleasant either. Since Gregor is transforming into a bug, his father has not been so kind. He is disgusted at the change from human to bug, and doesn't even want to see his son. He is horrified. It gets to the point where Gregor's dad throws an apple at Gregor's back and kills him.
These father-son relationships escalate quickly to the deaths of the sons in the stories. The sons feel isolated. Maybe that's how Kafka feels with his father, isolated. Maybe his father has told Kafka to kill himself. Maybe these stories are hints to their relationship and his feelings. From what I see many of Kafka's stories that we have read so far share the theme of isolation. I feel Kafka wants to emphasize that to us readers.
There is a big connection between both The Judgement and The Metamorphosis stories. the connection would be that in both stories we see that both sons are the one who work, while the fathers are the ones who are home. In the Judgement, Georg wanted to write to his friend in Russia about him getting married and so went to his father and ask him if he should. The father and him got into an argument, where the father proved that he knew this friend better than Georg and the result of this argument led to Georg killing himself. In the Metamorphosis, when Gregor turns into a bug, no one knows about it until he speaks for the first time to the chief clerk, and that is when the father realized that something was wrong with his son. Later on in the story we see how the father kind of just excepts the fact that his son is this bug, but what really set off the tone of "hatred" towards his son is when Grete and her mother wanted to clean Gregors room and his mom saw him and fainted and the father came home and then started throwing apples at Gregors back trying to "kill" him or push him to his room with his boot. These stories relate that Kafka wrote probably related to the way Kafka and his father had a relationship where they used to fight all the time. They probably didn't have such a great relationship like most father and sons do and so Kafka wrote these types of stories to relate and sort of show the reader the life he went through with his father. Maybe he felt like a bug in his fathers home like in the Metamorphosis.
ReplyDeleteIn "The Metamorphosis" and "The Judgement", there are clearly similarities with the issues between the son and father of the stories. Both Gregor and Georg have their own kind of problems and each character's demise is influenced by their fathers. I believe the purpose of these stories was to portray, realistically, what Kafka's life was like with his father and he even makes the characters names similar to strengthen the connection with their issues. The stories overall tell that the father-son relationship wasn't necessarily positive in Kafka's life and because he wrote them, he was clearly affected by it negatively.
ReplyDeleteIn all, both stories present an eerie, yet sad stories when it comes to the ending between both the lives of the sons.
DeleteThe connection between "Metamorphosis" and "The Judgement" emphasizes a bittersweet father-son relationship. In "The Judgement", Georg and his father run a business together but eventually we come to realize that the father feels betrayed by Georg and feels that the business is solely run by Georg and not himself. In "Metamorphosis", we learn that Gregor, prior to his transformation into a bug, is usually bringing home the money to support his parents and sister. The father had a business but it collapsed and Gregor assumed that there would be no money and he immediately took the responsibility to become a traveling salesman. Both stories reveal a twist in the relationship. In "The Judgement", Georg's father lashes out at him, insisting that Georg wants the business to himself and he even bashes on Georg for getting married. Georg's father also feels that the passing of his wife affected him more than it affected Georg. In "Metamorphosis", the relationship takes a turn when Gregor is turned into a bug and isn't able to work any longer. His father isolates him and mistreats his son as the story progresses, and he succumbs to finding work along with his wife and his daughter since they cannot depend on Gregor any more.
ReplyDeleteI think both of these stories can describe how a father-son relationship has its downfalls. Father's expect sons to have responsibility and a good head on their shoulder's to provide for themselves/their own families one day. Also, everyone has different opinions and views, creating either similarities and differences between a father and his son. I think Kafka displays his difficult relationship with his "overbearing" father through these two stories.
Between "The Metamorphosis" and "The Judgment," I can see the relationship between them when it comes to father and son. Both stories talk about a father who used to work, but now don't, and they both deal with a son, who has a conflict with the father. Kafka having a bad experience with his father seems to play a huge role in his stories. The conflicts that occur to the characters in the stories could be similar life experiences that he went through. Maybe Kafka, felt like a bug, at one point in his life, and in his story, he has the main character turn into a bug, to represent who he feels. What these stories tell us about father son relationships, is that when there is conflict between both father and son, it can really make a person feel differently about each other. Like when the father kills Gregor in the Metamorphosis, it could symbolize how Kafka thought his father felt about him.
ReplyDeleteOne of the connections that I can see between The Metamorphosis and the Judgement is the relationship between the main character and the family. In both stories, the strained relationships with family leave them feeling alone with no one to talk to. Another connection that can be made is how the characters in both stories don't question the fact that what is going on may not be real. The fact that Kafka had a difficult relationship with his father can be seen in his writing. These stories tell us that father son relationships can be very difficult especially when the father hold high standards that the son feels pressured to live up to.
ReplyDelete"The Metamorphosis" and "The Judgement" seem to have the connection of the father-son relationship. In "The Judgement" Georg's father isn't pleased with him and rather angered by him. His father's yells for his death, so Georg does end up killing himself. While in "The Metamorphosis" Gregor's own father can't stand the sight of his son and even eventually causes his death. Gregor's father is the first to brush his death aside and feel revealed.
ReplyDeleteKafka's relationship with his father is expressed through the characters he writes. He writes of the strained relationship between Gregor and Mr. Samsa. Gregor's father constantly making Gregor do the work and never so pleased with him. Gregor had stated his surprise to see his once weak father standing fully erect and dressed in a business suit. His father was always the one who turned away from him and always the first one to attack him. Gregor eventually dies and his father is the first to thank God that they no longer have him as a burden. Kafka essentially sees himself in the shoes of Gregor and even Georg whose fathers wanted nothing to do with them, who were never pleased with their son. Kafka feeling as if his father hated him, seeing that his father was never pleased. These stories open a light on father-son relationships from then and now.
Yes i see connection between this this story and "the Judgement". Some examples are
ReplyDelete1. Both stories the relationship between the father and their son was distant, they didn't had the same relation with their sons the way the females did with the boys.
( ie - Gregor and his sister / mom , Georg and his mom / soon to be wife)
2. In both stories it all came down to the father being the cause of their sons' death .
-George father told him to kill his self and he did so
-Gregor father end up killing him with the apple
i think kalfa writes these stories the way he does because it relates to his life in a way and that's just his way of expressing his feeling, because he never got the chance to talk to his father about what he was going through and as a writer it was his only was of letting it out....
Well obviously both stories have a strong father-son story to tell.
ReplyDeleteIn The Metamorphosis the father was disgusted by his son; he basically hated him.
But didn't it say in the story that Gregor Samsa's relationship with his family wasn't that great to begin with? Anyway, in "The Judgement" I felt like there was a more caring feeling felt between the father and the son.
Another connection I found betrween these two stories was that the main characters were both sort of lonely. Also the other obvious connection is that they both died. In The Judgement George killed himself and in the metamorphosis Gregor's father lodged a peach in his back and he died but i feel that he let himself go and he didn't keep fighting because he felt that he was so much of a burden that they would be better off without him.
In both stories, Kafka expresses both sons to take on most of the responsibility from their fathers. In "The Judgement", Georg took his fathers position in managing the company because of his fathers old age and in "The Metamorphosis", Gregor took the job as being a traveling salesman to pay off his fathers debt. Both men being responsible for the income of money in the household but struggling with their relationship with their fathers. Kafka created a situation for these characters where they're trying to help their fathers and in return, the fathers are being ungrateful. Even though Georg's father was getting old he felt he could still care for himself, so he didn’t like that Georg took it upon himself to help him by taking over. For Gregor, he has been working at a stressful job he doesn’t like for 5 years just for his father, working straight with no days off, and as soon as Gregor is faced with a condition that allows him not to work or even leave his room, he gets upset.
ReplyDeleteThe relationship between the father and the son is weak. if we look back at the "judgement' gerog only notice his father, when he wants to talk about his engagement and his his fake friend. when there both live in the same house. IN the judgement he has no friend or a imagine friend but in the metamorphosis he says intercourse with people that constantly change and never last
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the ' The Metamorphosis “, there are many connection between this story and "The Judgment.' Both story portrays a scrap father-son relationship and they also had a similar name connection between the sons. These stories I feel it’s telling us how important a father –son relationships are because it do affect them in many, having a bond with your father can refect on how a man life turns out to be ….
ReplyDeleteThe judgement and metamorphosis were very similar in the way that things that would of been dealt with caution and dismay in reality were not dealt the same way in both stories. What I mean by this is, in the judgement for the most part the story is about a man writing his friend and what he is writing his friend about, but in reality it is believed that there is no friend at all. In metamorphosis it begins with the extreme of greghor becoming a bug but then throughout the rest of the story he doesnt deal with the situation in a "realistic way" such as trying to figure out why and how this happened to him, but merely accepts it and lives life now adapting to this change.
ReplyDeleteI definitely also see the father-son connection in both stories. In the judgment george and his father had much of a somewhat love- hate relationship. They would sit and have lunch together and work together everyday. But when the father slowly becomes dependent on georg more and more he grows this animosity towards him which eventually causes george to kill himself. On the contrary in metamorphosis the father is content with being dependent on greghor and loves him dearly as a son. But when greghor turns into a bug and greghors and the families reponsibilities become dependent on the father he then grows animosity towards greghor which eventually, long story shory, causes his sons death as well.
After reading, I noticed a lot of similarities between both stories. When it's come to the father son relationship, In both stories the main character who is the son has a strained relationship with his father. The father and the family are in a situation where they depend financially on the son. I noticed a special focus on the fathers by Kafka. They are perceived by the reader from the protagonist or son point of view. The main character is constantly fighting for acceptance. In "The judgment", the son was blame by his father over a simple letter intended to be sent to a friend. Having a good job to support him wasn't take in count. The father even in a vulnerable position, to the son, looks strong and also demoralizing. The father reflects failure to the son. This caused Georg to commit suicide. In "The metamorphosis" the father looks also abusive. He looks distant to Gregor. He made his son work till he "breaks". After Gregor's transformation into a bug, the father temporary looks grateful for the work his son have done lately but his feelings quickly turned into revulsion and disappointment. To Gregor his father appreciation and freedom was a vital motivation. when everybody let him down he let himself die, discouraged.
ReplyDeleteThe connection between 'The Judgment" and "The Metamorphosis" is family issues. Both Gregor and George had family problems. I believe both George and Gregor wanted/needed a better relationship with their father's. George ended up killing himself because he never had/felt acceptance from his father. Gregor's father seemed to be very distant towards him, I Gregor was used by his father. Some children have to work to support their family for many different reasons. Kafka never gave us a reason why Gregor had to work so hard for his family. Its clear that there were no reasons. Once Gregor was unable to work, his sister, father, and mother began to work to help support the family. Both father's did not fight for their sons the way they should have. George father did not run after him when he ran off to commit suicide. Gregor's father never gave him a chance after his transformation. He no longer looked at Gregor as his son, I don't think he ever did. It seemed as if Gregors Father was waiting for the opportunity to get rid/kill him. Another connection between both stories are Gregor's and George's social life, they both had little to none. George lived his life pretending to be someone he's not. While Gregors life consisted of working for his family. Kafka obviously had problems with his dad growing up. I feel Kafka was never able to express himself growing up, until he started writing. Father-son relationships are tough sometimes because most believe boys/men are suppose to be tough at all times. So many sons miss the support they need from their fathers. This sometimes causes boys to grow up being men who are very much dependable on others.
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